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Our Land: We Are All Living in Relationship With Mystery

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Hi, Friends! I’m so pleased to feature the amazing words of my most namaste-excellent, brilliant friend, Sarah from Left Brain Buddha. Sarah and I found one another through mutual friends and immediately clicked. Her wisdom, outlook and life views are amazing and insightful. Visiting her site always makes me think, and I leave feeling peaceful and determined to live my life with more gratitude. After reading her great Our Land contribution, go check out some of her other work. I’m sure you’ll adore her as much as I do.

Our Land: We Are All Living in Relationship With Mystery

Our Land is about accepting each other’s differences and living with empathy and wonder. How am I different? My difference makes me part of an often vilified group in our culture. In fact, a 2012 poll indicated that Americans would be more willing to elect a gay or lesbian president, or a Muslim president, than a “this” president.

I’m talking about atheists.

Indeed, some progress has been made in how atheists are perceived in the US ~ the poll found that 54% of Americans would vote for a “well qualified” atheist candidate, up from just 18% in 1958, when Gallup first asked the question.

More and more Americans today are part of the religious “nones” ~ people who claim no religious affiliation, which would include both atheists and agnostics. In the most recent Pew Forum survey, almost 20 percent of Americans, and about a third of Americans ages 18-32, identified as being “unaffiliated” {meaning they don’t identify as Christian, Muslim, etc.}But for many years, I didn’t want people to find out I was an atheist. In fact, when I was in my early twenties, it somehow came out in a conversation with my roommate and her mother that I had never been baptized. A look of shock came over her mother’s face, and she quickly tried to recover, “Well, um … that’s okay!” But the revelation had clearly made her uncomfortable. Chris Stedman, author of Faitheist: How an Atheist Found Common Ground with the Religious, writes about how he had to come out of two closets in early adulthood ~ first, to tell people he was gay, and second, to tell people he was an atheist.

When I was a kid, I came home from school crying one day because someone on the bus had told me that I would be going to hell because I had never been baptized. I remember a “friend” in seventh grade telling me the same thing in the middle of art class. Other junior high friends staged “interventions,” where they cried and told me that Jesus loved me so much and they just could not understand why I would turn away from the God who had given me so many gifts.

By the time I was in high school, I had developed a pretty negative attitude toward religion. When people found out I was an atheist, they asked how I could live without having morals, as if morality and ethics were impossible without belief in God. I started to assume all religious people were judgy, and believed in a judgy God who loved them but hated me. They may have tolerated me, but how could I be friends with them if they really thought I was going to hell?

{And, as an aside, I am in agreement with Glennon Doyle Melton, who writes in Carry On, Warrior that we need to strive for more than toleration of others. We tolerate long lines at Target. We need to respect and honor and engage with human beings.}

In college, my negative attitude toward religion became downright hostile. I thought religious people were delusional and irrational, and that their participation in organized religion merely perpetuated intolerance and bigotry. I was Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins before I had even heard of the “New Atheism” of the early 21st century. I wasn’t just an atheist, I was an anti-theist.

I realized I had become just as intolerant of the religious as many of the religious had been of me. In Faitheist, Stedman describes how he came to a similar understanding of his hostile anti-theism ~ he was painting the religious with as broad a brush as the religious had painted atheists. He writes, “It was clear that I needed to change my attitude toward religious people; it was holding me back in my relationships, in my work, and in my personal development.” I was the same way. If I found out someone was deeply religious, I assumed we wouldn’t be able to be friends.

As I have embarked upon my own spiritual journey over the last decade, I had to confront my assumptions about religion, and about the religious. Many religious people do not, in fact, think me misguided and delusional for my beliefs. They don’t think I’m going to hell. Even Pope Francis stated in September this year that atheists would go to heaven if they had lived according to their conscience.

I have also come to realize that many religious people do not, in fact, believe God to be a judgy guy with a white beard. There are as many conceptions of God as there are people who believe in Her. Stedman encountered religious scholars who told him when they said “God,” they meant love, or justice. Well, I believe in those things too, I just call them love and justice. We can’t confuse the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself; we’re all living in relationship with mystery.

Even as recently as this year, when I started my blog {called Left Brain Buddha, where I write about mindfulness and Buddhism} I was surprised when I would get followers who included that they were Christian in their Twitter bios. Didn’t they read my blog name? Don’t they know I’m not Christian? Why would they read my writing? But I’ve learned that just because someone loves Jesus, it doesn’t mean they hate me.

Today I have many readers from many religious backgrounds. We don’t just tolerate each other, we engage with and learn from each other. I have come to honor and appreciate their worldviews. And this is exactly what true interfaith dialogue should be ~ not just people of different religions, but the unaffiliated and the agnostic and the spiritual-but-not-religious and the deeply religious sharing their wisdom and insight in order to create understanding and empathy.

I will admit, there are times I still struggle to understand the religious. In my time attending a Unitarian Universalist Church, I loved the saying “The only thing we are intolerant of is intolerance.” So I can’t say that I will honor a vision of a God or a Mystery or a Flying Spaghetti Monster who loves you but hates gay people, or denies science, but I do think there is value in our dialogue. Even if all we can do is agree to disagree, we can at least do it without being disagreeable. Whether we are Christian, Jewish, Atheist, Agnostic, or Pastafarian, we can all strive to live with compassion and love and kindness.

Through this type of dialogue, we might realize that Americans’ definitions of “God” are quite diverse. In the 2008 Pew Forum survey of religious affiliation in the United States, 70% of the religiously unaffiliated, and 21% of atheists, said they believed “in God or a universal spirit.” Over nine in ten Americans professed such a belief (71% were absolutely certain of their belief), but only 60% said they believe in a personal god. And many people who identified with a particular religious affiliation proclaimed no belief in God at all, including 17% of Jews

These numbers reveal that being “religious” or being an “atheist” can mean many different things. It’s no more acceptable for me to assume what “God” means to you than it is for you to assume what my beliefs are because I call myself an atheist.

Talking about atheism can be a challenge, not just due to cultural stigmas, but because it is by definition a proclamation of what we don’t believe, not what we DO believe. When I do have deep conversations about spirituality and mystery and “the meaning of life” with those closest to me, I sometimes find there is not a lot of difference between me and my theist friends.

We still must avoid the trap of saying, “All religions are basically the same,” for there are important differences among the world’s wisdom traditions. But we can likely discover that we all desire to live our lives with compassion, wonder, and empathy. That sounds a lot like Our Land.

See? I told you that Sarah is amazing. Here’s a bit more about her:

SarahSarah Rudell Beach is a teacher, wife, and a mother to two energetic little ones. At Left Brain Buddha, she explores ideas and practices for mindfulness, and shares the challenges and riches in her journey to live and parent mindfully in a left-brain, analytical life. She encourages you to discover the amazing transformations that can occur when we not only indulge, but learn to tame, our monkey minds.


  • donofalltrades - Is this one of those comments where my latest post will show up here? Too funny, if yes, because it’s called The buddhists are ruining christmas for christians, lol. It’s not that bad, Sarah, I promise.

    While I am far far from religious, I do identify myself as Catholic. That has been tested recently as the church has banned alcohol from all kid related events like sports and trunk or treat. That was the half the joy of being Catholic…the drinking!

    Anyway, I got sidetracked, sorry. When I used to hear somebody say they were an atheist, I just equated that in my little brain with somebody saying they were still undecided as to what they believe in. How stupid, right? I’ve read more and more blogs by atheists and I get it now. I admire anybody whose made a decision that they stand by. That’s more admirable than me being Catholic mostly to shut my mom up. We don’t make the kids go to church as we don’t go very often, and we don’t make my daughter take psr classes since she doesn’t like them. If they grow up and want to believe in God, fine, if not? Great. Whatever.

    Anyway, I don’t know what my point was, I got distracted by a drawing of a woman on a toilet below. Nice, Kristi! If I think of a point, I’ll come back, but I’ve typed too much to scrap this crappy comment completely though. Thanks for the post! Oh, and yes, those lines at Target can be most intolerable, just like the Protestants!

    Hahaha, I’m kidding, geez…December 4, 2013 – 10:08 amReplyCancel

  • Kristi Campbell - Don,
    YES! Your blog post title shows up! Awesome timing!
    I believe in God. Not believing is too scary for me. We are terrible about getting to church though…
    Sorry the toilet drawing was so distracting for your man brain.
    Also, two of my best friends are atheists. That feels relevant.December 4, 2013 – 10:12 amReplyCancel

  • Janine Huldie - Even though I am Roman Catholic, I have my moments and doubt in the church, as well as the fact that I wasn’t raised in believing that if I went to church that would make me a better person. I know many including my in-laws who are just that religious and go to church weekly. I am not saying I think anything is wrong with either choice, but I am saying that everyone should and does have a right to choose on religion, the lack thereof and even how they practice if they do. So, in that right I do feel I can relate and truly loved your post today. Thanks for sharing Sarah and thanks Kristi for having her here today.December 4, 2013 – 11:03 amReplyCancel

  • Kristi Campbell - Thanks, Janine. I agree that everybody has the right to believe in what they wish and that it is not up to us to judge.December 4, 2013 – 11:09 amReplyCancel

  • The Dose of Reality - What a fantastic post!! “We tolerate long lines at Target. We need to respect and honor and engage with human beings.” BINGO.
    Engaging others with respect is what it’s all about, no matter what your beliefs. I don’t understand what is so odd or foreign about that concept, but it sure seems to be something that we need to practice now more that ever. We seem to be getting worse at this instead of better. :/ Fantastic post!! –LisaDecember 4, 2013 – 11:42 amReplyCancel

  • Deb @ Urban Moo Cow - Thought provoking as always, Sarah. I have a complicated relationship with religion. I once wrote a post called “Church Lady” talking about it. I will send it to you if you are interested. My husband was not baptized and I think in my mind I left the Catholic church when I was 8. I have a lot of strong, involuntary reactions to overt theism, esp. Catholicism. I think some of it is justified but other parts… well, you’re probably right that I need to be more tolerant of the intolerant. (But I can’t, I can’t, I can’t!!!!!)

    Thanks for great food for thought. xoDecember 4, 2013 – 12:30 pmReplyCancel

  • Considerer - Sarah, this is an awesome post, and I’m so sorry to hear that you had such bad experiences with religious people. It’s very frustrating to hear how wrongly and how alienatingly ‘religion’ can be done.

    But I LOVE that you’ve continued to explore this and develop your own beliefs and challenge your preconceptions. I wish everyone were as wise as you (I think that’s the left brain thing though, if I’m honest – I still don’t get that).

    You’re awesome, and you BRING IT to Our Land 😀 *dances*December 4, 2013 – 1:27 pmReplyCancel

  • Katia - I love you, Sarah, and I wish I had you for a teacher. I love the critical analysis you’ve subjected yourself to on your way to realizing that you started judging religious people as harshly as you were being judged. It takes someone open-minded and flexible to make that discovery and it takes someone brave and self confident to admit it to others. I loved this essay, just as I love everything you write and learned a lot. As usual. 🙂December 4, 2013 – 2:46 pmReplyCancel

  • Sarah @ LeftBrainBuddha - Don – oh, how funny!! I will have to check out your post. And I love what you stated about your children and allowing them to believe what they want to when they grow up – so important!

    Janine ~ I agree we need to support people not just in what they believe, but in how they worship/practice. It’s not always about just going to church.

    Lisa – thanks for the comment. I sometimes go back and forth, thinking we’re getting better at respecting people, and then I see things that make me question it. But you’re right, it all comes down to engaging people and treating them with respect and compassion.

    Deb ~ I would love to read that post! And to clarify, the point I was trying to make is that the issue of intolerance of others is still an area where I struggle with religion. It is so hard to extend tolerance and compassion to those who are judgmental or who discriminate, but that’s probably where it’s most needed.

    Lizzi – Thanks for the kind words! So much of my negative experience with religion was when I was younger, not recently, but it’s only been recently that I have been able to look at my own views too.

    Oh, Katia, thanks! I’m glad I could share this here.December 4, 2013 – 4:06 pmReplyCancel

  • Dana - Sarah, I have typed and backspaced about five times trying to write a comment that does this post justice. I can’t do it. But I read it this morning and have been thinking about it all day. Thank you for exercising my brain – I love how your writing educates and inspires me!December 4, 2013 – 4:18 pmReplyCancel

  • Sarah | LeftBrainBuddha - Oh, Dana, thanks for such kind words! It made my day!December 4, 2013 – 6:18 pmReplyCancel

  • Kenya G. Johnson - When you wrote “just because someone loves Jesus, it doesn’t mean they hate me” – I said, “Right!” I am the kind of person that doesn’t shove my christianity down anyones throat. Perhaps I am a “witness” in my writing occasionally. The only time I get uncomfortable is if someone challenges my belief. I don’t like those kinds of discussions. Otherwise you being you, and me being me – beliefs aside – we could totally be friends. I took too many mental notes before I got down here and now I’ve forgotten most of what I wanted to reference because I was memorizing that first line. But I did love how you said you just call it “love and justice.” Great Our Land post.December 4, 2013 – 6:46 pmReplyCancel

  • Heather - I loved this, so very well said. You even got in a Flying Spaghetti Monster reference. I especially liked this “We tolerate long lines at Target. We need to respect and honor and engage with human beings.” Something has long bothered me about the word tolerance, and that describes it exactly.December 4, 2013 – 8:49 pmReplyCancel

  • Tamara - That Glennon Doyle Melton quote. Why had I never heard that? I love it. I was born Jewish but my parents left the temple after we had all had our Bar/Bat Mitzvahs because they had only been doing it for us. My mom calls herself Tibetan Buddhist and my dad? Celebrates Christmas like you wouldn’t believe.
    So I was confused coming into my own marriage with a man who is both Mormon and Jewish. And let me tell you – the confusion hasn’t lessened after we had kids, like I magically thought it would.
    I have become very close with a few Christian bloggers and we all seem to get each other, and yes, tolerate and respect and even love one another. If you had told me this would happen even a year ago, I may not have believed it.
    I think it means I’m getting more open-minded too – in learning that there are open-minded and open-hearted people from every walk on life.December 4, 2013 – 9:06 pmReplyCancel

  • Rachel - My father was a scientist and an atheist. He was also a provocateur and, when I found a fossil at age five, he had me bring it in to show and tell and talk about evolution to the class. I grew up thinking religion was exotic, something other people got to do that I didn’t. I longed for the community, the connection to the tradition of my grandparents and to something bigger than “we are all just molecules”. My husband and I go to church, although less now that we have a toddler. I live in NYC and run in liberal circles. We are considered strange by many, crazy by others. I have never really cared what other people think. My religious belief is more important. I feel sustained by it in a way that no one needs to understand but me.December 4, 2013 – 9:26 pmReplyCancel

  • Sarah | LeftBrainBuddha - Kenya – I love that statement about not shoving our beliefs on others… that’s where it gets so uncomfortable and inappropriate!

    Heather – thanks. I have always felt weird about the word “tolerate” as well, it just doesn’t have a very good connotation. And my dad is always trying to get me to work the FSM into a post!

    Tamara – I loved her book, she writes about her faith and christianity but in such a broad way that even I could relate to it! And wow, your family makes up an entire interfaith council!

    Rachel – I love the last line of your comment – ultimately, no one else truly needs to understand our beliefs but us.December 4, 2013 – 10:29 pmReplyCancel

  • Ruchira - Religion can be a very heavy dose if it is coming from someone who is a stickler to the religion he/she is following.

    I follow hinduism but got my education in a convent school where jesus was prominent for those 8 hours. The nuns did not impose upon me infact, I still sing those hymns 🙂

    I liked reading your perspective, Sarah.
    Namaste!

    Thanks Kristi for showcasing such a brilliant author/compassionate person.December 4, 2013 – 10:33 pmReplyCancel

  • Kate Hall - I’m impressed with your knowledge and research, Sarah. This is a really well-thought out post. The interesting thing to me about my own faith is how it has evolved over my lifetime and continues, and will continue to evolve. It is a mystery.December 4, 2013 – 11:24 pmReplyCancel

  • MJM - I personally think that judging someone by the religious views, or the lack thereof, is completely ridiculous and utterly senseless regardless of what job and/or place they hold in our society.

    Great post…thanks for sharing.December 5, 2013 – 3:37 amReplyCancel

  • Yvonne - Sarah, something that amazed me when I first got to know people from the States was that so many people still go to church. In the UK it’s definitely the minority.

    I could really identify with much of what you wrote here. I grew up going to church and then became cynical about it, because of the judgements. And that what Jesus said was so totally different to the old testament – as a teenager I decided that the OT was written by men long after the fact, so wasn’t reliable. I felt guilty if I didn’t go to church but I can also remember while at art school, sneaking to church in fear that anyone I knew might see me. (As if they’d be up that early on a Sunday!) Eventually I stopped going.
    Then I became friends with a female priest who had been taught about a loving and forgiving god, not the punishing one I’d known, and since then I’ve also met many other Christians who are not judgmental (even learning my parents had many doubts.) So I’ve had a similar journey to yours.

    I love that where we live now is multi-cultural, because my daughters have grown up with Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Christian and atheist friends – but as far as I’m aware no Buddhists! (Though I definitely lean towards that.) I recently saw a video by a scientist David Eagleman where he described possibilianism – which explores possibilities with an open mind. I like it!December 5, 2013 – 4:11 amReplyCancel

  • Cathy - What a thoughtful article Sarah wrote, Kristi. I certainly can see why you and she clicked.

    I am a Christian. I love Jesus with all my heart. Sarah’s blog shows me how much Christians (as well as other religious folks, including atheists) have distorted the Bible. The primary message Jesus brought to this earth was, “Love one another.” Period. First and foremost. Once you love someone unconditionally, there is no room in your heart for judgement. <3December 5, 2013 – 10:15 amReplyCancel

  • Alice Risemberg ~ Reiki Pulse - Amen, sister! What a great post on true openness, authenticity, and the problem with labeling (even/especially ourselves).

    And where do I sign up to be a Pastafarian? Yum.

    Thank you for this mission to do more than tolerate, to respect and honor and engage with each other. Priceless!

    My husband is Christian and I am very much not. When I first met him (he was even teaching Sunday school at the time, not my vision of the perfect mate), I was astonished at how our spiritual views were aligned at their core even though our language was so very different. Over the years, I have found our different approaches with similar values and underlying beliefs to be a major positive as I continue my own spiritual growth and engagement. I think (?!) he feels the same way. It has opened my mind tremendously, which has helped my understanding of true compassion.

    Thanks for your story, Sarah. I love your blog and recommend it often.

    Warmly,
    AliceDecember 5, 2013 – 4:51 pmReplyCancel

  • Stephanie @ Mommy, for Real. - This is amazing, Sarah. Really interesting (and sort of shocking- the jr high and high school part) to learn more about your journey. You speak of this so bravely- I find myself very apologetic when discussing my lack of religious affiliation. I never refer to myself as an atheist. I mean, I believe in *something*…I’m just not sure what. And I am definitely not a Christian, so where does that leave me? I didn’t realize the Pope had made that comment about atheists and heaven this year. Wow. We are making progress. Thank you for this insightful, inspiring post.December 7, 2013 – 10:27 amReplyCancel

  • Natalie - The Cat Lady Sings - Sarah, I always love reading your blog, because you bring a different, refreshing perspective to my life. I came out of a spiritually intolerant, even abusive environment, and since coming out of it and working on recovering my own spirituality, I want to understand other perspectives. It’s helped me become whole again. I think we should embrace our similarities and differences in love. To me, that is the mark of a spiritually mature or enlightened person.December 7, 2013 – 11:37 amReplyCancel

  • Kerri @ Undiagnosed but okay - First, I love pastafarians they are so misunderstood.

    I think there are a lot of misconceptions about atheists. I know my own ignorance that I have the misunderstanding that atheists do not believe in any higher power. The light should show on the subject is a wonderful conversation starter.

    As far as when you were younger, I believe that due to the misconception (I have never used that word so much) that atheists don’t believe in God others feel bad and sad for you. We set such expectations that there is a plan, a reason to be good, something better than this Earth we are currently contaminating. And we forget to enjoy this moment right here when we learn more about one another.December 20, 2013 – 2:01 pmReplyCancel

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